Powered by Rollyo

Recent Comment
Spotlight

  • Reader JG writes: Then again, power users don't click ads. So maybe this is the elephant in

    the room that no one is talking about.

    [go]

Recent Comments

  • nmw: " One simple way to get Google closer to t ..." [go]
  • julia: " I own a business in Toledo, OH and have ..." [go]
  • laura: " Google's fair weather friends are taking ..." [go]
  • dave: " "From 750 to 520 in a few months..." Ye ..." [go]
  • Fuzz: " Hi John, There's a web search service h ..." [go]
  • nmw: " "But I still don't why" >> "But I still ..." [go]
  • nmw: " There were 2 points that seem extremely ..." [go]
  • Gorden: " its only a question of time, if the firs ..." [go]
  • stone: " Looks like the non-media company is runn ..." [go]
  • JG: " One more thing to get worked up about, w ..." [go]
  • JG: " I just had the chance to read the interv ..." [go]
  • nmw: " It might be good to be able to create "t ..." [go]
  • nmw: " I guess both sides can be argued. Since ..." [go]
  • Search◆ Engines Web: " The obvious solution is to let each sear ..." [go]
  • Charlie: " If they do this, I hope it'll be obvious ..." [go]
  • JG: " Rich L. has a good point, about how adve ..." [go]

PERFECT FOR THAT PERSON WITH EVERYTHING
Order 'The Search'

thesearch_bookcover.jpg

Yup, it makes the perfect gift for that officemate or colleague who you thought had everything....including you! If you order here, I promise to sign it, assuming we can figure out the shipping...

You can also buy the audio version here.

Check my book page for more info.

Blogger's Rights

Top Posts

Active Topics

Monthly Archives

About John Battelle

Searchblog Newsletter

Enter email to subscribe to "Re-Find", Searchblog's weekly newsletter:


Calendar

February 2008
Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa
          1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29  

Syndicate

Powered by

January 28, 2008 7:53 PM

And the Interface Evolves

...toward conversational interfaces....news from Google acknowledging that ten blue links is getting old (we knew that, so did Google, but...):

There have been a lot of recent improvements to web search, but the appearance of results themselves has been pretty constant -- 10 or so web pages in a vertical list. Frequently this is exactly the right format, but for some searches you need more options and more control. That's why we've created our experimental search page to let you try out some of our newest ideas.
You may have noticed our "alternative views" experiment showcased last May. This lets you visualize your search results in new ways, and we'd like to highlight some of the features we've recently added.

  • Posted by John Battelle on January 28, 2008 7:53 PM


Comments

ooooh... ahhhhhhh!!

:) nmw

Let me give the guys a couple tips:

1. clustering:

see e.g. www.quintura.com:/?request=news&searchvia;=1&page;=1

2. menu-driven (aka "suggest") -- KISS:

cf. search.yahoo.com

3. is it LIVE or is it MEMOREX?

... ... ... hmm... -- let's see... maybe:

cf. digg.com , twitter.com , facebook.com , wikia.com , ... live.com ?

4. if you want to refinance, try refinance.com -- if you're not happy with the results, then maybe try refinance.net or refinance.org or ...

LOL @ ooooh... ahhhhhhh!!

Some are pretty cool like the Google Image Labeler, which can show you how incredibly dumb or intelligent you are within two minutes (how did Het is al van u score 20000010 points?!!), but I others confined to 1024x768 screens would probably find them a bit too cluttered.

we knew that, so did Google, but...

Are these just the same four or five different visualizations that some other commenter a few weeks ago recommended that I take a look at? Yeah, I think that's the page.

Good for Google for throwing these things against the wall. I laud that. But this is hardly a commitment to an evolved interface. I want to see these things, and more, live. Not on some hidden, experimental, labs page that the majority of searchers aren't going to find, much less even know to look for.

What I find sorta odd about the experimental page is that Google says "you can only join ONE experiment at a time". That doesn't make any sense. If you want to move beyond 10 links, you gotta realize that different queries necessitate different visualizations.

For example, if I type "iraq war", then I might want the timeline to automatically appear so I can see events on the timeline. On the other hand, if I type "vacuum cleaners", then I might want the automatic query expansion / right hand contextual search navigation to appear so I can see various types of vacuum cleaners, manufacturers, reviews, etc. A timeline would be of little use to me. Finally, if I type "tim burton movies", then I might want to see both query expansion (all his movies, plus related persons such as Johnny Depp and Danny Elfman) as well as a timeline view (when his movies were released).

So for Google to only let one of these interfaces be active at a time doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. They're basically requiring me, before doing every single query that I do, to go in and turn off one interface, then turn on the other, if my query is of a different type than the interface I currently have active.

Awkward.

Let's see these things start to appear on the main Google page, and in an automated, helpful manner, i.e. when it is contextually appropriate to my search activity. Don't force me to go activate/deactivate it before and after every search.

I want something better. And I want it before the next ten years pass by.

Also: I was just thinking that the map user interface might be especially useful if users could select from a drop-down list of sexual positions, but without some "authority control" I fear that it will be only of limited use....

:) nmw

Also (again, this is "also, part 2" ;) :

The more Google fiddles and fuddles with their presentation of the results (and thereby again continues to drift away from the original impetus that -- way back when [originally] -- made Google great), the less the click stream reveals about what's "out there" on the Internet (and that holds whether the what's "out there" is the so-called user ["recipient"] or whether it's the so-called provider ["sender"]).

Now that I think about it, I guess I am echoing (and emphasizing) JG's comment above: The criteria Google uses to rank results is saying more & more about Google's "preferences" -- i.e., what "matters" to Google (and, as JG has ably argued: what Google thinks might matter to users/providers ain't necessarily so).

This is the basic pitfall of a "one-size-fits-all" search engine (and it's also why "educated" / "advanced" searchers scoff at such a "hammer & nail" approach).

Here's an example: if you want to rent a video, it used to be that you had to know whether it was in VHS or Betamax format; and/or if the data were formatted according to PAL or NTSC -- and now you have to decide between Blue-Ray or HD DVDs. However: None of this matters if you want to buy a bicycle.

And here's a little "BTW" for Mr. Donahoe: If you are looking to make a one-size fits all search engine, you too will send your company into oblivion -- and it is better to recognize that simple fact sooner rather than later.

Well, I feel the experimental interfaces for Google results are not that creative and well thought of. For example, it would be foolish to have a map interface for someone looking for information on new trends in genetics.

Post a comment

Human detector
Please enter the letter "m" in the field below. If you want to preview your comment before posting, enter the secret letter after previewing, not now, as the letter will change upon preview.

Enter the letter from above: